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David Millar
2 years ago
Gee the old cut and paste aint working very well. The IAAF Rule 260.18d states quot;No performance set by an athlete will be recognised if it has been accomplished during a mixed competition.quot; |
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David Millar
2 years ago
Athletics NZ supplimentary rules state: That rule refered to statesnbsp;quot;No performance set by an athlete will be recognised if it has been accomplished during a mixed competition.quot; 5. Rule 260.18d - IAAF Competition Rules 2009 is to be disregarded for New Zealand records set in mixed competition. |
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Haytron
2 years ago
I can see the sense in having these gender rules... because if you allow a record to stand for females in a mixed race, then its not a huge step further to allow a male to be paced through a record by someone wearing roller blades, on a bike or on a suped up pogo stick or something as ridiculous as these examples sound. You need to draw the line somewhere and splitting up the genders ensures that its equivalent for both males and females. |
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Jim Baird
2 years ago
Records mean nothing it is just a guide too improvement. They happen when who ever gets all the right conditions and has the ability too take advantage of the moment . As i have stated before women in Athletics is treated as a nbsp;poor cousin and untill this is rectifiednbsp; all this drible about men and women racing together. In Dunedin they get exactly the same treatment as men gt; As Brownie has stated our numbers are few and our women are very young . The structure works well even our youngest run with masters year 9 to learn race craft and pace and withnbsp;masters nbsp;support they learn alot. As for Beck she races men as she needs to learn too keep pace with world youth runners e.g being around the 4min pace off 1500s and the 200min nbsp;for 800s I see those times as hard too achieve as yet ,nbsp; but there nbsp;will be a time it will happen at the world U20s. seems more people on here are concerned she is thinking about records, never once have we gone out too get a record PB is our priority if the conditions favour her and she gets a good PB and a record is there then thats the job of the officails too decide, Remember lots of recordsnbsp;they come and go and are irrelevant other than as i said too a guide for progression of improvment. Seedings are far more important as performace records |
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Rees Buck
2 years ago
Awesome run by Rebekah - great to follow up after a great Sec Schools Champs. Although the rules around records seem arbitrary since we are in a sport which separates on gender I have no problem with records being required to be set against like-gender athletes. We all know the rules and Rebekah and her Coach would have been aware of them too so probably arent upset about the record not being ratified An assumption on my part. |
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Gort
2 years ago
David: This is because they change the rules for age groups every few years so the records have to keep being reset... |
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David Sexton
2 years ago
WHynbsp; does ANZ have to have these standardsfor records. Keep it simple; list the fastest time, best jump/throw by the person that age and thats your starting point. Q Rew is absolutely right, keep it simple. |
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Q Rew
2 years ago
Shit comparison. |
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Alan Rubick
2 years ago
Browno |
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tpain
2 years ago
The rule was changed so thatnbsp;Womennbsp;could acquirenbsp;qualifying standards to global events racing the men,nbsp;it should really go one step further and apply to records. At the end of the day she ran the time on an approved 400m track. |
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browno
2 years ago
Because in Otago for example on Saturdays fields are split on times not age/gender. Due to numbers. |
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fano
2 years ago
nbsp;Browno why would a 14yo boy be in a girls race in the first place.nbsp; |
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browno
2 years ago
You didnt get what i meant fano, Ballam was a junior racing senior men elites who towed him round to I presume a regional record? Ive got no problem with it but they are in different age groups/ levels of athlete so its not much different to Becky on Saturday except of course they are the same gender. |
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Jim Baird
2 years ago
As i have been told records and world qualifying can only be against women , how NZ records are concerned i think thats another matter and as for Becks time this weekend if she is good enough she will do it again but brownies right we dont havenbsp;many quality runners in that female group over that distance in Dunedin and it gets expensive chasing it around New Zealand. so the pace the yourng blokes race suits her long term preperation we havnt peaked for any event this year maybe some tapering but other training continues as normal she will rest over xmas then attend Rio squad camp in January and move onto some invite meets to run out of her comphort zone, then NZ nbsp;Nationals 2 weeks after thatnbsp;the Australian nationals under supervison of Raylene Bates in Melbourne cheers Jim |
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browno
2 years ago
on Saturday in Otago fano? name them. |
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fano
2 years ago
nbsp;Browno that just sounded stupid.nbsp; |
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browno
2 years ago
Rough. No record because your competition is to shit... Or people youre racing are to good? |
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Jim Baird
2 years ago
Done m8 cheers Jim |
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Physeder
2 years ago
nbsp;Hey Jim,nbsp; |
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Jim Baird
2 years ago
I believe she has not even peaked yet, and is running with the men so she can get used too the pace, for the year 2012 as stated in the ODT today |
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Daniel O'Shea
2 years ago
That is most likely the case Craig, she has been running in the guys races all season. |
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cdm
2 years ago
looking at the results - Rebekah ran in race 1 with the guys??? Hard to tell with those Otago results. If that is the case then it wouldnt be a NZ record anyway. Surprised that it is listed as an otago record also but local rules might be slightly different |
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David Millar
2 years ago
nbsp;Yes it would be quite good to be able to look up a record and find an actual record. |

Gort 2 years ago
Great run but...Andrea Stewart ran 2:07.53 at 16 and Michelle Green ran 2:07.2 so not sure why the standard was set 2:08.00 when so many others were set higher than anyone achieved prior to the records being established thinknbsp; mens PV.